Raskin On Giuliani’s Jan. 6 Testimony: ‘Definitely Has A Lot Of Information’ | info
- >> SINCE LAST JULY, ALMOST 11 >> SINCE LAST JULY, ALMOST 11 MONTHS, A BIPARTISAN JANUARY SIX COMMITTEE HAS BEEN INVESTIGATING THE INSURRECTION. THEY'VE RECEIVED OVER 136,000
- DOCUMENTS, CONDUCTED OVER 1000 DEPOSITIONS AND INTERVIEWS, INCLUDING MOST RECENTLY, WITH DONALD TRUMP LAWYER AND MAJOR MCLACHLIN POTENT SCENE EARLIER IN THE SHOW, RUDY GIULIANI. HE REPORTEDLY MET WITH THE COMMITTEE FOR NINE HOURS ON FRIDAY. AND NOW, AS THE COMMITTEE IS
- MOVING TO A NEW PHASE OF THE INVESTIGATION, THE LONG AWAITED PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHO WE LEARNED ABOUT ALL THEY HAVE BEEN COVERED. THE GUARDIAN GOT ITS HANDS ON THE DRAFT HEARING SCHEDULE WILL, WHICH SHOWS SIX HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE, ONLY TWO DURING PRIMETIME HOURS.
- CONGRESSMAN JAMIE RASKIN IS FROM MARYLAND. HE SERVED ON THE GENERAL SIX COMMITTEE, AND IS THE LEAD IMPEACHMENT MANAGER IN THE SECOND IMPEACHMENT TRIAL OF DONALD TRUMP, FOR INCITING THE INSURRECTION. AND HE JOINS ME NOW. CONGRESSMAN RASKIN RASKIN, MY SENSE IS THAT YOU CAN'T COMMENT
- ON THIS SORT OF STUFF, BUT I'LL ASK ANYWAY, IS THE LEAKED SCHEDULE CORRECT? >> HEY, CHRIS. WELL, I'LL JUST SAY IN GENERAL, A LOT OF THE LEAKS, NOT ALL OF,
- IT HAS BEEN CORRECT. WE ARE VERY EAGER TO GET GOING WITH THESE HEARINGS. YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THE HEARINGS ARE GONNA BE ABOUT THE EVENTS OF JANUARY 6TH, AND THE CAUSES THEREOF, BUT THE WHOLE
- QUESTION OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR POLICY CHANGES, TO FORTIFY OURSELVES AND OUR INSTITUTIONS AGAINST FUTURE ATTACKS WILL COME LATER. SO I THINK THEY'LL BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE HEARINGS ON OTHER ASPECTS ON THE CHARGE UNDER HOUSE
- RESOLUTION 503, AFTER THIS HEARINGS. >> I SAW THE NEWS ABOUT RUDY GIULIANI, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CAN OR CANNOT CONFIRM. BUT IT IS STRIKING TO ME IN SOME WAYS, WHEN, AS WE NEAR THE END OF THIS, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE CLOSE TO THE PRESIDENT,
- THEY DID END UP COOPERATING WITH EITHER INVITATIONS OR SUBPOENAS FROM THE COMMITTEE. >> WELL, EVERYBODY'S GOT A LEGAL DUTY. AND A CIVIC DUTY TO BE THERE. AND WE HAVE MADE OURSELVES
- PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT WE WILL HOLD PEOPLE IN CONTEMPT, TO TRY TO GET CONTEMPT PROSECUTIONS BROUGHT AGAINST THEM FOR VIOLATING THEIR LEGAL OBLIGATIONS HERE. RUDY GIULIANI, I SHOULD TELL
- YOU, IT'S NOT MUCH NEWS. YOU KNOW, HAYES, HE'S NO MICHAEL TIGER. HE'S NO BRUCE COVER, AS OTHER LAWYERS GO. BUT HE DEFINITELY HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT WITH WHAT'S
- TAKING PLACE, DURING THOSE DAYS, AND YOU KNOW, I'M HOPEFUL THAT HE IS GOING TO TELL, OR TELLING US EVERYTHING THAT HE KNOWS. >> THE ONLY THING IN THE WORLD, BASICALLY, DOWN LIKE GENERALLY
- AN EXPERT ON, IS BASICALLY PRIMETIME POLITICAL NEWS PROGRAMMING. SO -- I HAVE AN INTEREST IN THE HEARINGS IN THAT, AND THE SORT OF PROFESSIONAL CAPACITY, OBVIOUSLY. BUT I DO WONDER LIKE, HOW YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT THEM, BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL TALK ABOUT
- THE WATERGATE HEARINGS, AND I THINK I WOULD SAY IN RESPONSE IS, LOOK, BACK IN THE WATERGATE HEARINGS, IT WAS LIKE 50 MILLION PEOPLE WATCHING THE TONIGHT SHOW EVERY NIGHT. IT WAS JUST A DIFFERENT UNIVERSE. THAT'S TRUE, I, THINK EVEN THE BENGHAZI HEARINGS, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO. LIKE, IT'S A DIFFERENT UNIVERSE
- RIGHT NOW, IN TERMS OF HOW CENTRAL TO THE ATTENTION ONE CAN MAKE A THING, HOW ARE YOU ON THE COMMITTEE THINKING ABOUT THAT? WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE GOAL OF THE PUBLIC PART HERE? >> WELL, I'M WITH YOU ON THAT.
- I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING EVEN KIND OF QUAINT ABOUT THE PHRASE, PRIME TIME. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ELECTRIFYING MOMENTS OF TELEVISION, EXCHANGES BETWEEN LEGISLATURES AND WITNESSES, OR
- MOMENTS OF REAL EPIPHANY AND CONCEPTUAL BREAKTHROUGH OR MORAL BREAKTHROUGH, THOSE WILL GET REPLAYED ALL OVER THE INTERNET, ALL OVER ALL OF THE CHANNELS, AND SO ON. SO IT'S NOT AS IF YOU NEED TO BE WATCHING EVERY MOMENT, IN
- ORDER TO SEE EVERYTHING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. IT'S ALSO THE CASE THAT WE CAN PUT OUT, MORE MATERIAL, EVEN THEN WE'RE GOING TO PRODUCE FOR THE HEARINGS THEMSELVES, AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE. AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE REAL
- STUDENTS OF THE INSURRECTION AND COUPS IN THE 24 CENTURY AMERICA COULD STUDY ALL OF THAT. YEAH, THE THING ABOUT PRIME TIME THAT YOU CAN PERHAPS EXPLAIN TO ME, CHRIS, IS HOW AND THAT WORKS DECIDE WHEN THEY ARE WILLING TO GIVE UP THEIR
- REGULAR WE SCHEDULE PROGRAMMING, AND WHEN NOT. AND I THINK, I ASSUME THAT'S IN PART OF THE NEGOTIATION BETWEEN OUR COMMUNICATIONS PEOPLE AND THE NETWORKS. >> YEAH I THINK THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT. DO YOU THINK, DO YOU IMAGINE IN
- YOUR HEAD A SET OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PERSUADABLE ABOUT THE GRAVITY OF THIS, WHO ARE AS YET TO BE PERSUADED, BUT CAN BE PERSUADED BY THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THESE HEARINGS? >> ABSOLUTELY.
- AND THE REASON I KNOW THAT IS BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD, CERTAINLY FROM HUNDREDS, AND PERHAPS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, WHO WROTE TO ME AFTER THE SECOND IMPEACHMENT TRIAL, TO SAY THEY WERE EITHER INDEPENDENTS, OR
- THEY WERE REPUBLICANS, OR THEY WERE TEACHERS, THEY WERE PROFESSIONAL PROFESSORS. THEY WERE REALLY WATCHING TO SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING, AND THEY FOUND THAT THE EVIDENCE OF DONALD TRUMP'S GUILT WAS OVERWHELMING, THAT WE HAD
- REFUTED ANY AND ALL OF THE FRIVOLOUS LEGAL AND FACTUAL ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTED BY TRUMP'S LAWYERS. AND SO, I KNOW THAT TONS OF PEOPLE WHO WERE IN MOVEMENT THEN, AND I THINK THERE ARE EVEN MANY MORE PEOPLE MOVEMENT NOW, AS WE SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT
- WAS AN INSURRECTION ATTEMPTED COUP, THE TOOK PLACE IN THE JANUARY OF LAST YEAR. AND IT CONTINUES TO BE AN ATTEMPT TO DELEGITIMIZED OUR CONSTITUTIONAL ORDER, AND OUR ELECTIONS. AND THERE ARE PEOPLE, LIKE THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR GOVERNOR
- IN PENNSYLVANIA TODAY, WHO PARTICIPATED IN THESE EVENTS. I THINK THAT MASTRIANO RENTED THREE BUSES TO TAKE PEOPLE DOWN TO WASHINGTON FOR THE STOP THE STEAL EVENT. WHO ARE NOW BEING PROMOTED UP
- THE RANKS OF THE GOP. SO, THE SITUATION IS FAR MORE DIRE THAN IT EVEN ONCE THEN, AS DONALD TRUMP'S CONTINUED TO DOUBLE DOWN ON THE BIG LIES, AND THE POLEMIC'S, AND THE DISINFORMATION.
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